On this episode, Nancy speaks with Dr.  Matthew Taylor, a visiting scholar at Georgetown’s Center on Faith and Justice and a leading expert on Christian nationalism, religious extremism, and the role of religious pluralism in defending democracy. In this two part series, Matt and Nancy do a deep dive on the new religious right, the role this group played on January 6th, the power they hold at the highest levels of government, and lessons we can learn from other democracies threatened by religious nationalism.

On this episode, Part 1 of the conversation, Matt and Nancy set the stage with a discussion of the fundamental concepts of independent charismatic Christianity and the New Apostolic Reformation, the leadership network of this group. They discuss the enormous popularity of this rapidly growing segment of Christianity with its exciting revivalist spirit, speaking in tongues and celebrity culture. Matt speaks about the apostles, prophets, demons and territorial spirits that populate the theology. And Matt walks listeners through the prophetic memes and coded symbols that serve as virtual carriers of theology and, when propagated by church leaders, ultimately led in a straight line to January 6th. For people on the outside, this can all sound completely bonkers but the reality is that this movement presents a dangerous threat to democracy.  If that’s important to you, then this conversation is a must-listen, and be sure to catch Part 2, out next week.

Matthew D. Taylor is a visiting scholar at the Center on Faith and Justice at Georgetown University and the author of The Violent Take It by Force and, forthcoming, Defying Tyrants. A public-facing theologian and religious studies scholar who specializes in American Islam, Christian nationalism, and Christian extremism, he is also the creator of two limited podcast series–American Unexceptionalism and Charismatic Revival Fury. Taylor holds a PhD from Georgetown University and an MA from Fuller Theological Seminary.

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